Category: Jam Session
There may have been a similar Board Topic re:The Rappers/Hip Hop and the like, only thing is I just don't feel like going through all the old Board Posts to discover if this is true or not...
Well, I guess I'll go first. *smile* Although most people at or around my age and younger seem to listen to either rap/R&B or rock, I personally prefer the older music, most of which is not from my generation such as 70's/80's music, most of which (that I listen to anyway) don't include rap. (I do also like some early 90's music too though and some stuff from today.) Anyway, although I do like a few rap songs I'm not into the onces of today unless there is something different/positive for them to say. The reason I'm not that into it is that the majority of rap/R&B I hear of today either seems to graphicly describe sexual activities like that's all they could think about (no offense), and/or is about the pimp/gangster life. Another thing that slightly annoys me to a lesser point is that some use the tunes of older songs for those very songs and to me that ruins it because I know that sometimes people from this generation will recognize the original song because that's what was used in the newer rap song. I will admit that there are some songs like this I like such as MCHammer's "You Can't Touch This" and Rick James' "Super Freak", wich use the same tune, but most other songs like that I really just don't get into. Anyway, so those are my thoughts on this. *smile*
well, i love eminem! it stops there
I like some rap, the beastie boys, missy elliot, KRS1, emenem, d12, snoop dog, some ICP, etc. Although I don't listen to his music much, Two Paq was a very good writer. some stuff I like purely because it's entertaining, like that song lean back, I think it's by fat joe, and anything by Lil John. and I love that song "Just a friend", by Biz markie. The chorus is so out of key and awful but it's so funny!
...TinkerBell, I had forgotten all about, "Stop! Hammer time!" Goodness that seems like ages ago...Those lyrics, They describe the rapper as having "toured around the world, from London to the [San Francisco] Bay" and as being "magic on the mic," *Thanks For The Memory **Smiles
Tupac was one of my favorite rappers, but I'm disgusted that ehey keep remixing his stuff. Sorry, but biggie and Tupac don't belong in the same song. Tupac had some great lyrics, and I was one of his biggest fans probably since I own around a dozen of his albums, but his time is up. As for the current sene, can anyone in this genre make a song on their own anymore? All the mainstream crap seems to have to have the song be by at least 2 artests, or by 1 artist featuring another. Thanks for nothing. I think I'll stick to the underground sene where things continue to be progressive and interesting.
...kc8pnl, please feel free to share underground artists that you are drawn too if you choose to...
Well, I love all sorts of music, but the rap from late 2003 to the present has all sucked, accept for the occasional song that sounds cool. I love pac, big papa, snoop, dr. dre, all that stuff. Also, we've gone to quite a bit of upbeat hip hop or nothing but drum and bass and one noters throughout the entire song. Boring!
I got many favourite Rappers. Fabolous, Jada kiss ... I like almost any Rapper. rAlso the Female ones (Lil' Kim, Eve) or the Ruffriders in General. I mean I don't like the idea that there is so much shooting in that scene, but still, I love the beats and the rapping.
Oh yeah and how could I forget about Missy. She was my idol for a while since she was overweight like me and still successful, and now she lost weight and I want to try it too. And her voice ... and the fact that she can sing and rap ... I really love her songs.
Hey people, This topic should not have been posted here. This topic is about music and it should be in Jam session. Pay attention to where you post stuff.
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I don't like English wrap but i like the Greek group going through. The name doesn't sound Greek lol.
Sorry i didn't spell it right. It is goin' through not going through.
Way Cool Nikos, The International Scene... way cool indeed smile
Thanks Connie. Good link. I didn't know about this myspace account but i am wondering if a group fun creaded the account or if the actual group members created it.
I will have to explore it.
The song is good but they did better i think.
There are four different songs to choose from...well three in that one is playing as I log on and is called, "12 Para." (According to what is listed...I am only guessing as Greek I speak not) Then on right side of web there are three others to choose from beside the first listed:
Gynaikes
Poso Malakas Eisai
Kalimera Ellada
Thanks Connie.
I found the other songs but the player is not accessible. I just have topick one and see what it is but it is a good site.
The first song playing is the dodeka para and i thought it was the only song at first.
Kalimera Ellada is one of my favorites and i never heard gynaikes so i will have to check it out.
Nikos,
I will take a guess and say that the word, "dodeka" is the number 12. This I am basing on the information in Post #17...
Yes you are correct. Dodeka is the number 12.
Talking about international rap, there is a Dutch group called BrainPower that I have heard and like. One of their songs is called 'Door Merg & Brain' and it's rather cool. You could check their website but I just realized it's all in Dutch. I english I found this website about the artist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainpower But just in case you are curious to see their own website here it is http://www.mcbrainpower.nl/mcbrainpower/splash.php Greetings, Star
Geia sou star. I will check them out.
Thanks for the link.
french and bosnian rap is quite interesting to listen to.
Must admit not certain to whether this audio/video will activate or just for AOL users:
German rap is mostly very very crappy. The American is way, way better.
nah! I like some German rap. Brothers keepers, , absolute beginner, kurz, to name a few. I like french rap as well, like kool schen and Iam. he only problem I have with french rap is the use of verlan and or very very heavy slang types that I cannot understand. Heads up, spanish rap, like diablo or oricias is killa! But on the english seen, I liked the older hiphop as I grew up listening to it and it's fun o blaze, but anything in the last few years, I've not really been feeling. So now I go underground to things like immortal technique, who is my fav rapper of all time, necro, ill Bill and jedi mind tricks. Also, anyone checked out Ffort Minor?
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Um, sorry, that was the most stupid thing I ever done. Btupid laptop keyboard. Let's try this again:
I said most of German rap is crap. But of course there are exceptions, like, of course, Brothers keepers, D-Flame especially. Or I also love the Colaboratioons German rappers dod with Americans, like Lil' Kim speaking German on a track with DJ Tomeck (Ganz egal wo), or a new song from Massive Töne they did with Fat man scoop. If case anyone want to hear fat man sooop speak German ... the song is called "Komm schon". It's really good.
Rap is crap. Its nothing but people talking to a beat.
No, no, no stupid "Cuddly-Lady,"
EAST s'i'i'i'i'i'dd
Lol. No problem.
Oh, and who ever thinks rap is crap - fine, but then don't post here.
Ines.
Cuddly-Lady, Better known as "Ines" in a previous passage of time,
Tupac's words were beautiful. However, it is time to let him rest.
As for most other rappers, meh. The lyrics are horrible, most of the voices not much better...the music is sometimes good, sometimes just catchy. I will say that a bit of Snoop Dogg's stuff is bearable, but I have yet to hear a female rapper who's worth hearing. Overall, no thanks.
I really cant stand much rap ya know liked emennim or how ever the fuck ya spell it. but like more rock n roll man ya know shit like seether styx gnr shit like that I just think rap is more sex violence and every woman is a whore. and she should give sexs or die shit like that sucks. eve's love is blind is a good song though
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Rap is something that never caught on with me all these years. But then again, neither has heavy metal, punk, country or dance music. I've got what I think is a pretty varried taste in music, but I think one thing is that even as a teen or twenty-something I never followed trends. See, for one thing, I'm more interested in instrumental music than vocal music. Second, I just feel that I can't relate to rap on the whole. It's all about lifestyles that I've just never lived.
...Godzilla-On-Toast,
I mainly say all these years because I'm 41 years old, so I was around when the whole rap thing took off nationally. Plus, not all my music is instrumental, but if it's vocal, the words are not the absolutely most important thing. I own like over 300 CDs, and perhaps that's now 400 plus lots of stuff I've downloaded from some of the music sharity blogs, so naming a few would be very hard, plus it depends on waht I want to hear. Sometimes I want to hear old electronic music like Tangerine Dream which can just get me very immersed in the music. Then I might want to hear some classic rock, like the Allman Brothers. Then I have some progressive rock, like early Genesis or Yes. Then I have odd things like Frank Zappa, where the structure of the music can get quite complex and involved. Iv'e got classical music, mostly the dramatic stuff like Tchaikovsky and Rachmoninov. Then I have jazz such as the "Time Out" album by Dave Brubeck's group or "Kind Of Blue" by Miles Davis or that kind of thing. I'm mnainly talking traditional-type jazz in all its forms and not what's called "Smooth Jazz" which is to me a modern Muzak and isn't really meant to be listened to with your full attention. That stuff's too light and pretty for my taste. I have a tiny bit of Celtic music and a tiny bit of folk rock, such as "Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention. I could go on but I'll probably run out of characters soon.
...Godzilla-On-Toast,
First up, Thank You for returning with the Musical tastes that are of your preference...
...I must admit these words you are sharing have caught my interest, please feel free to share more. *The character count will start with your next Posting at the regular/standard 4000 unless changes have been made. To my knowledge, everything is as was before, so feel free to continue..
Well, it also depends on what I can come up with in my head. Sometimes I just come up with so much, then I draw a blank. When blanks are drawn, it's time to quit! LOL!
...Godzilla-On-Toast,
Actually, I'd like to continue the conversation in private mail, because me going on about my own tastes is steering the topic far away from its purpose and probably alienating people away from continuing to add to the topic. When I get unblanked, I'll drop you a private mail here on the Zone and we can continue the conversation.
...Godzilla-On-Toast.
Oh, guess you still haven't picked up on some of my personality yet. I'm a pretty mellow and laid-back guy, truth be told, but I do tend to be blunt and matter-of-fact when I write, but if I intimidate anybody, that's their thing and not mine. But anyhow, more music. See, even when I was a little tyke who noticed music but didn't take a totally active interest in it, I always liked stuff that was distinctive or just weird. I was born in 1965, so of course back in those days a lot of electronic sounds and effects crept into pop music and I dug those. I liked those first novel instrumentals taht featured the Moog synthesizer. I guess I was lucky in that with my parents' combined music collection on LP, I was exposed to a lot of different things, especially during my younger years when Mom was doing the housewife thing. I got to hear Ray Charles, Henry Mancini, Buck Owens, some classical, later on some British blues like Eric Clapton, a little bit of soul or whatever it was from the Shaft soundtrack, light pop jazz by Wes Montgomery who was a guitarist, Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, the assorted music of Burt Bacharach and Jimmy Webb who were popular songwriters in the late Sixties, Carol King, Van Morrison and other singer/songwriters, and so forth. Oh, let's not forget other instrumentalists like the Ventures. I was aware of the Beatles when I was little because of the radio, but I don't think Mom or Dad liked them much, although some albums they had would have a cover version or two of Beatles songs. You just couldn't escape them, and the same goes with Bob Dylan. Nobody Iknow in my family is a Dylan fan, but again, other folks covered his work. Oh, I forgot the folk music. We had a Kingston Trio album and a Peter, Paul and Mary album. Um, we had a Nancy Sinatra album and I know we had one Andy Williams record. Oh, I forgot Cat Stevens and J. J. Kale.
Now, that last post was all about what I heard on the living room stereo. My own records were pretty much stories, although I think I liked Beethoven for some reason when I was little. At the risk of bragging, I've always been one with a pretty good ear for music and could notice a lot of things about it. It wasn't just a casual kind of background noise to me, even when I wasn't paying attention. Now, my brother Allen, the oldest of us three, also took interest in music, but he was hte one to bring a few Beatles albums home and some more current music of the day, like the Eagles or Pink Floyd or Deep Purple and other hard rock, and oh, let me not forget the Moody Blues. I liked Pink Floyd and the Moody Blues when I was maybe nine or ten, and add to that the Beach Boys and Alice Cooper of all things. The first LP I wanted to add to my collection taht wasn't comedy or stories was the "Out of the Blue" album by the Electric Light Orchestra. I also owned a copy of the very first Allan Parsons Project album which was songs based on Edgar Allen Poe stories. My brother thought it was going to be readings of these stories but it turned out to be music. I got to appreciate that one later once music really caught on with me. So here I was twelve and thirteen and music was catching on, but while everybody else was either into disco or the band Kiss, I went my own way, since Iv'e always been kind of a loner/eccentric/introvert anyhow. In 1977, a few years after the parental units divorced, I moved with Mom up to Washington state, where, for one thing, there were many more radio stations than there were in the little town I used to live in. This included a few non-commercial stations, where I was introduced to stuff like Frank Zappa and the residents and Kraftwerk at my tender young age. Yep, no Kiss or disco for me, that's for sure.
...Godzilla-On-Toast,
What's in a name? For Sean Combs, it's a variation on Puff, Puffy, Daddy or Diddy.
Zoners BBS,
Oooo, you mean the Staypuff Marshmallow Man, as in Ghostbusters? Cool!
...Godzilla-On-Toast,
I have to say I'm not a big Rap fan. Although I like some of the lyrical content (about political issues or just flat out good lyrical schemes like M and M, for instance) (only some songs though)! I don't enjoy much of it; far too much talk of gangsters, disrespectful comments abut women and violence for me, and what's more, a lot of Rappers sound the same now.
...Gypsy_girl,
Guess who's back? Slim Shady. The decidedly not-retired Eminem is set to release his highly anticipated collection of new material entitled EMINEM PRESENTS THE RE-UP on October 30. The mixtape will feature guest spots from 50 Cent, G-Unit, and D12 (including the late Proof), and deck work from Eminem collaborator DJ Whoo Kid.
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Connie ~ Grace
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DJ WHOO KID: NEW EMINEM MIXTAPE
"The Re-Up" mixtape is what the fans been praying to hear again and the other record labels did not want to hear. The return of Eminem. Whoo Kid, Alchemist, and Eminem is almost done with the next Shady mixtape with new material and freestyles from Em, Obie Trice, D12, 50 Cent, and more.
D12 TO KEEP RECORDING
D12 plans to continue recording a new album despite the shooting death of band mate Proof. "If people think that because he's not here we're not going to keep doing what we're doing, then they're wrong," said Kon Artis. Proof was shot to death last month at an after-hours bar on 8 Mile Road, Detroit. D12 would use work already recorded by Proof.
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Greetings One n- All,
Doing a bit of tv surfing and came across ICE-T Rap School.
REAL Neat like eh? ..Yes! real cool like- I like it *smile*
So then to The web did venture and herein' a sendin' some facts you might like to take in and a read while a waitin' on all the various ICON ZoneBBS to come on in...Come on in...Come on in...WHOO shall be the NU ICON of Zone the BBS...???
Class is in session and Ice-T, the Original Gangsta, is gonna school ya.
In "Ice-T's Rap School," Ice invades the hallowed halls of York Prep, an exclusive private school in Manhattan's tony upper west side. And in just six weeks, he'll try to transform a small class of 8th grade sucka MCs into big-time rappers.
Ice delivers some hardcore lessons in rhyming, scratching, and breakdancing. And after a roller-coaster journey of nail-biting auditions and pressure-packed recording sessions, the kids face the ultimate final exam: opening up for Public Enemy at BB Kings in New York.
Will Ice win over straight-laced students, skeptical parents, and distrusting faculty? Will he be able to turn these prepsters into true playas?
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The Following turn to the web and find some Tunes of ICE-T to take a listen to...
http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/ice_t/1364152/album.jhtml?popThis=playIt()
The Following is a copy of the lsiting of Music?Rap by ICE-T... Not certain whether or not with copy/paste/ect...so here givin' a try...maybe work..???
01 . Gangsta Rap
02 . Ridin' Low
03 . New Life
04 . Dear God Can You Hear Me
05 . Please Believe Me
06 . Pimp or Die
07 . Pray
08 . Step Your Game Up
09 . Real Talk
10 . Walking in the Rain
11 . The Games Real
12 . It's All Love
13 . Code of the Streets
14 . Everything Is Going to Be Alright
15 . My Baby
16 . Twice the Game
http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/ice_t/1364152/album.jhtml?popThis=playIt()
Ice-T (born Tracy Morrow) has proven to be one of hip-hop's most articulate and intelligent stars, as well as one of its most frustrating. At his best, the rapper has written some
of the best portraits of ghetto life and gangsters, as well as some of the best social commentary hip-hop has produced. Just as often, he can slip into sexism and gratuitous violence, and even then his rhymes are clever and biting. Ice-T's best recordings have always been made in conjunction with strong collaborators, whether it's the Bomb Squad or Jello Biafra. With his music, Ice-T has made a conscious effort to win the vast audience of white male adolescents, as his frequent excursions with his heavy metal band Body Count show. All the while, he has withstood a constant barrage of criticism and controversy to become a respected figure not only in the music press, but the mainstream media as well.
Although he was one of the leading figures of Californian hip-hop in the '80s, Ice-T was born in Newark, NJ. When he was a child, he moved from his native Newark to California after his parents died in an auto accident. While he was in high school, he became obsessed with rap while he went to Crenshaw High School in South Central Los Angeles. Ice-T took his name from Iceberg Slim, a pimp who wrote novels and poetry. Ice-T used to memorize lines of Iceberg Slim's poetry, reciting them for friends and classmates. After he left high school, he recorded several undistinguished 12" singles in the early '80s. He also appeared in the low-budget hip-hop films Rappin', Breakin', and Breakin' II: Electric Boogaloo as he was trying to establish a career.
Ice-T finally landed a major-label record deal with Sire Records in 1987, releasing his debut album, Rhyme Pays. On the record, he is supported by DJ Aladdin and producer Afrika Islam, who helped create the rolling, spare beats and samples that provided a backdrop for the rapper's charismatic rhymes, which were mainly party-oriented; the record wound up going gold. That same year, he recorded the theme song for Dennis Hopper's Colors, a film about inner-city life in Los Angeles. The song -- also called "Colors" -- was stronger, both lyrically and musically, with more incisive lyrics, than anything he had previously released. Ice-T formed his own record label, Rhyme Syndicate (which was distributed through Sire/Warner) in 1988, and released Power. Power was a more assured and impressive record, earning him strong reviews and his second gold record. Released in 1989, The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech...Just Watch What You Say established him as a true hip-hop superstar by matching excellent abrasive music with fierce, intelligent narratives, and political commentaries, especially about hip-hop censorship.
Two years later, Ice-T began an acting career, starring in the updated blaxploitation film New Jack City; he also recorded "New Jack Hustler" for the film. "New Jack Hustler" became one of the centerpieces of 1991's O.G.: Original Gangster, which became his most successful album to date. O.G. also featured a metal track called "Body Count" recorded with Ice-T's band of the same name. Ice-T took the band out on tour that summer, as he performed on the first Lollapalooza tour. The tour set-up increased his appeal with both alternative music fans and middle-class teenagers. The following year, the rapper decided to released an entire album with the band, also called Body Count.
Body Count proved to be a major turning point in Ice-T's career. On the basis of the track "Cop Killer" -- where he sang from the point-of-view of a police murderer -- the record ignited a national controversy; it was protested by the NRA and police activist groups. Time Warner Records initially supported Ice-T, yet they refused to release his new rap album, Home Invasion, on the basis of the record cover. Ice-T and the label parted ways by the end of the year. Home Invasion was released on Priority Records in the spring of 1993 to lukewarm reviews and sales. Somewhere along the way, Ice-T had begun to lose most of his original hip-hop audience; now he appealed primarily to suburban white teens. In 1994, he wrote a book and released the second Body Count album, Born Dead, which failed to stir up the same controversy as the first record -- indeed, it failed to gain much attention of any sort. Nevertheless, Body Count was successful in clubs and Ice-T continued to tour with the band.
In the summer of 1996, Ice-T released his first rap album since 1993, Return of the Real. The album was greeted by mixed reviews and it failed to live up to commercial expectations. 7th Deadly Sin followed in 1999. Ice-T then returned to acting, taking a role on NBC's Law & Order : Special Victims Unit playing, ironically, a police officer. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide
http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/ice_t/bio.jhtml
http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/ice_t_rap_school/series.jhtml
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